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and yours too, if you want.
just lets try and get mine done first
some advice from my forumites, awesome advice btw:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115003

nice, will do
thats 50 bucks...
why is the DVD drive beige? And the case black?

I found a black one half a fricking year ago, but I guess it got sold out

I would appreciate a combo drive thats black (preferably at equal speed or faster) writing DVDs is not my concern, running them and CDs is. although from what I hear they all write now . I'm not really concerned with vanity, I Just want the thing to work.
Yes, the E6600 is a great buy. It can pretty much chug through anything SupCom throws at it (unless you try playing against 7 Supreme AIs on one machine...the game slowed down to about a tenth its normal speed before crashing... ). For me, the only real cap on the game is my graphics card (GeForce 7900 GS), but I can run it on high fidelity settings and get awesome results, though it does tend to slow every now and then...hopefully as the patches continue, the game will be further optimized (a big patch released not too long ago tinkered with more sensitive stuffs pertaining to unit pathfinding, with positive results), and the stand-alone title will help this situation even more, even if it's for a price...

well then, its settled isnt it!

ok, now here are the problems I have and why, I'm not a computer person so just try to stick to layman speak pls.
1) Combo drive
a) biggest concern is that it might be a bit slow, would appreciate a faster one for a comparable price
b) its beige... its vain but I would like a black one
2) Hard Drive
a) its quick, but its capacity is small, would like a similar but larger one. (I'm talking about the 74 gig one, not the 150 gig I found)
b) I would prefer a quiet one, but its not my main concern.
3) video card
a) sounds like its enough, but I'm not tech savvy
4) motherboard
a) dunno really... compared to the quality of the rest of my parts it doesnt really stand up, from what I hear it hardly affects performance, but its the central unit so I want to make sure
b) give me all the dewhickies that you can find (for not too much more expensive)
5) comp in general
a) I want all the parts to fit, I think that makes sense
b) I hope it wont overheat too much, this is an expensive computer.

and out of curiousity, just how powerful can a processor get? do they come in gradations of .8GHz?

and as always, thanks for the advice guys

()Edit()
would be nice if I showed you the parts, wouldnt it?


PARTS

modified to karoke's advice.

SAMSUNG Beige 16X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 16X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 5X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2M Cache ATA/ATAPI DVD Burner With LightScribe - OEM

COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-UW Black Aluminum Bezel, SECC ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

Western Digital Raptor WD740ADFD 74GB 10,000 RPM 16MB Cache Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM
(what does "OEM" mean...?)

EVGA 320-P2-N811-AR GeForce 8800GTS 320MB 320-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Video Card

THERMALTAKE TR2 500W Power Supply ATX12V V2.0

pqi TURBO 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory

Intel BOXDG965RYCK LGA 775 Intel G965 Express ATX Intel Motherboard

Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 Conroe 2.4GHz 4M shared L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor
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Reply #101 from Sins Forums Top
I've never used Asus, but they must be ok, since they are a top board maker, and I have 3 other friends I know are using Asus. Are you sure you aren't rubbing magnets all over your board, and or rubbing your feet on the rug before touching it?

A brand new DOA mobo from Asus is like finding a needle in a haystack.
Reply #102 from Sins Forums Top
Could be a short?  You put the padded washer things between the motherboard mounting screws and the case, yes?
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Reply #103 from Sins Forums Top
kosc, I'm not an idiot. Yarlen, I'm no fool.

of course, I did everything with the utmost care, I grounded myself every two minutes, wore the antistatic bracelet and mounted everything properly. the motherboards were absolute bogus crap, I dont know how to phrase it better. I'm done with ASUS.
Reply #104 from Sins Forums Top
I got the same mobo from ASUS, mine is just with "32" added to its name.

I also had those frezes, but to fix it you gotta get the bios update, and put it on a USB storage disk.

Then you start up the PC, go into the bios NOTHING ELSE, keep pressing the "DEL" key until it happens. (maybe remove all other hardware to make it as stable as possible)

From the bios enter the flash section and find the USB device and install the update.

If it doesnt work, your doing something wrong
Reply #105 from Sins Forums Top

Could be a short? You put the padded washer things between the motherboard mounting screws and the case, yes?


that happened on my last build, didn't realize it until my IDE ports weren't working, lol....
Reply #106 from Sins Forums Top
you can get a new bios by orderinga new bios chip. you can get them online, just have to know what type of chip your motherboard has. it's really easy to remove and put in a new one. As for your power supply, 500W I'm not sure is enough power man. A lot of times I have hardware errors on other computers was cause of a poor power supply or lack of power. It's why I always go for power supplys around 700-800W. Anyway. Hope that helps
Reply #107 from Sins Forums Top
Never mind what i said above, should have reading abit more

But as Tristan said, its properly the PSU, and if that aint enough get the updated bios chip.
Reply #108 from Sins Forums Top
This I do believe is the longest computer related thread I have ever seen...
Reply #109 from Sins Forums Top
the computer place tried the PSU, thats not it either. how about you guys not assume I did something wrong?
Reply #110 from Sins Forums Top
Maybe the computer place doesn't know what it is doing...
Reply #111 from Sins Forums Top
I didn't say it was broken, I was saying it may not be powerful enough
Reply #112 from Sins Forums Top

I didn't say it was broken, I was saying it may not be powerful enough


For what is in the case, 500w power supply should be fine.
Reply #113 from Sins Forums Top
what are the actual specs, cause his list says he has an intel board, and he says he's running an asus...
Reply #114 from Sins Forums Top

you can get a new bios by orderinga new bios chip. you can get them online, just have to know what type of chip your motherboard has. it's really easy to remove and put in a new one. As for your power supply, 500W I'm not sure is enough power man. A lot of times I have hardware errors on other computers was cause of a poor power supply or lack of power. It's why I always go for power supplys around 700-800W. Anyway. Hope that helps


Addendum to the above post.

Here's a good guideline to reliable PSUs
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=108088
Reply #115 from Sins Forums Top
AT LAST AT LAST!!!

its here at last! my shiny new, supcom playing sins-asskickin computer is ready and fully functional.
Reply #116 from Sins Forums Top

AT LAST AT LAST!!!

its here at last! my shiny new, supcom playing sins-asskickin computer is ready and fully functional.


until a power surge takes out the mobo/cpu/and power supply.
Reply #117 from Sins Forums Top
Tard  my comp. is invincible... and makes toast
Reply #118 from Sins Forums Top

Finaly so have you testet it in games other then sins?
Can you take some pictures of the inside?
Reply #119 from Sins Forums Top

Tard  my comp. is invincible... and makes toast


BUT does it put butter and jam on the toast?
Reply #120 from Sins Forums Top
1) yes, it runs smoothly on just about anything I've thrown at it, it only became just slightly bumpy when I went 3 player 1000 unit cap (we werent that high though, its misleading) on gentlemen's isle (we took up the whole map) in supcom. I have to say, thats pretty damn impressive for anything I've seen

is there a way to lower the angle of the screen in supcom? I kindof dislike the topdown mode.

2) my parents have forbidden me from opening the computer, they're convinced its bad luck

3) it does, but it gets peanut butter all gucked up in the fans
Reply #121 from Sins Forums Top
hahah, my college/gaming PC I built for myself:

Intel Mobo (I'm too lazy to go through the entire model)
4 GB RAM (I forget timing)
8800 GTX
800 Watt Power Supply (yes, my computer runs on souls)
250GB Sata HD
DVD RW drive I think 16x
3.6 (total) GhZ Dual Core Processor (I think E6700)

It runs like a dream.
cost? $1600 American
Reply #122 from Sins Forums Top
3.6 (total)


What does that mean? Are you adding the two cores together there?

I'd love to upgrade my Ram to match your 4GB... in fact, I think thats the next upgrade I'm getting (followed closely by Vista to use DX10 on my GTX, a new case, and maybe a new HD that runs faster than the HP "hand-me-down" I'm currently using).
Reply #123 from Sins Forums Top


What does that mean? Are you adding the two cores together there?

Yes I am... It's 1.8 Ghz. I might upgrade my processor later, if I need it and based on funds.

I'd love to upgrade my Ram to match your 4GB... in fact, I think thats the next upgrade I'm getting (followed closely by Vista to use DX10 on my GTX, a new case, and maybe a new HD that runs faster than the HP "hand-me-down" I'm currently using).


Don't blame ya. I'm thinking about Vista, but I want to wait until the bugs are kinked out a bit more. I can get it for $99 because of being a college student, which is nice.
Reply #124 from Sins Forums Top


Don't blame ya. I'm thinking about Vista, but I want to wait until the bugs are kinked out a bit more.


I'd really like the DX10 graphics, now that games (that I'm interested in) are coming out with it. And having a 64 bit edition OS would help free me of the 4GB limit so I can actually use anything past 3 GBs, since my 8800GTX eats up nearly a gigs worth of the memory allocation.