What is going to happend to Iraq?

Iraq, as we all know is in a crossroads. The troop surge and the rebeilion of some tribes in the awaking movment has been able to drive attacks down but it seems because of the Iraq goverments inabilty to get something done people are losing faith, if we left the Iraq goverment they will ever try to work together, or just leave the country. Iraq can go any way now, good or bad, unlike before where it was only bad. It is very easy to call something a faluire just because it has taken along time, but is it really a faluire? Or is it just because Americans dont like to wait? Americans like stuff done fast and done with everybody knowing that we had just kick the shit out of the enemy, look at the first gulf war, most people supported that because of how fast it and devastating it was for the enemy. To be perfectly clear, I think the only way to make Iraq secure is to make Iraq army more infovled with keeping their country safe, yes some men will run away. But do know what your supposed to do? Make a example out of them so the rest dont get any ideas. That goes for the rest of Iraq goverment, like the parilamnet and police force. America cant let the Iraqs be reliant on them, if they do what will happen when the Americans leave? Even if the terriost are defeated, it wont mean much if the Iraq goverment cant do anything but argue. So what do you think is going to happen to Iraq?

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People IN iraq have a lower quality of life since the invasion then before.

The majority of damage and problems resulting in the lower quality of life were and currently are being casued by the occupying forces.

Same thing in Afganastan.

You cannot take over a population through might.

History Teaches this thousands of times.

But the US attempts it over and over again.

The only way to take over another country is through cultrual superioty.

(example the Mongolians edned up with the largest empire in the history of humanity spanning the entire asia/east/European contient.

What happend?
They were absorbed into the local cultrues and the Mongol Nation simply disappeared.

Western Culture is by fact of numbers falling to Islamic Cultrue.

Ironcily 200 years ago british culture supressed Islamic, even now in India men with mastarhes are considered higher class/more honest and the Indian govement is now paying its police to grow them.

A tie over from british Imperialism.

If subjugation through force worked the Russian Bloc would never have split... infact looking at the occupation of Afaganastan(with more military force then the UN currently has there) even before Us supplied materials they were putting up a hell of a fight and making it costly.

Now UN and the US have the same trouble and are attemping the same soloution.. increase force.

The more force
The more innocents killed
The more innocents killed
The more friends, fathers,brothers,mothers,sisters that become your enemy.

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Small correction.... military might DOES work...
But only in cases where the entire native population is put to the sword.

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why does everyone think that we want to conquer Iraq?
that would be the most retarded thing for us to do.
were trying to get rid of the terrorism that is based in the middle east, not take over some stupid third world country.

Anyway, I think Iraq is going down the tube because 99% of the people there are caught up in the "I have to kill suni's" or "I have to kill kurd's" crap, so they'll be blowing each other to bits for a while longer until they see that they're just being retards.

oh, ya and the goal is for the iraqi lifestyle to be better when we leave, not while we're there. No one can live comfortably when there are tanks in your front yard.

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