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Follow Up: “Is your job THIS Bad?”

Follow Up: “Is your job THIS Bad?”

 

In my first post on this topic, the tip of the iceberg was described. Now the questions about “How bad could it be?” are beginning to be explored.

On Friday, there was an explosion in the plant. It has been attributed to Magnesium and Aluminum dust which apparently also coat the workers’ hands and faces. Anyone familiar with high school chemistry knows how explosive even flour dust is.

Here's a video clip from the plant shortly after the explosion shot by a worker:

 

“An explosion at a Foxconn factory near Chengdu, China, has killed at least two people and injured 16, according to a statement sent from the company, which reportedly manufactures Apple iPads at the site. Local government officials referred to the factory as Foxconn's "polishing plant" and little solid information is known about the cause of the explosion--one English-language Chinese news site described it as "caused by a super-light dust explosion," and rumors circulating around Chengdu and through the media also allude to lightning strikes and problems with the ventilation system in the building.

Read more: http://news.cnet.com/two-die-in-explosion-at-foxconn-ipad-plant/8301-17938_105-20064773-1.html#ixzz1N4i2Mok5

Apparently there were rumors of a lightning strike (the Magnesium flash could be mistaken for that) and Security Guards warned the smoke was toxic.

Earlier, Apple warned about conditions at the plant per Cnet.

“Apple's just-released progress report (Apple's Supplier Responsibility 2011 Progress Report) on the labor-related practices of its overseas parts suppliers  reveals grim truths behind the making of such popular gadgets as the iPad and iPhone--including worker poisonings, child labor violations, and 60-plus-hour work weeks. The Supplier Responsibility 2011 Progress Report, released just weeks after Apple logged record profits of $6 billion, marks the first time the company has officially acknowledged that 137 workers "suffered adverse health effects" at Wintek's Suzhou factory in China (which supplies parts to Apple and Nokia) because of exposure to n-hexane, a toxic chemical in cleaning agents.”

Read more: http://news.cnet.com/8301-27083_3-20032074-247.html#ixzz1N4k6hBbn

 

Not trying to be inflammatory, but this is reprehensible. This is something to think about when considering purchases as well as diplomacy. I would think that with the leverage of such huge profits, Apple and other US firms could bypass our impotent government completely and demand conditions equal to the US with respect to worker health and safety, at least in the plants tied to them.

I would think that would be their responsibility as contracting parties with this manufacturer. Please, don’t anyone tell me “they didn’t know”. It was their responsibility to know and take strong steps to correct what was wrong. But then, that might cut into their profits… and after all, how would that look to the shareholders?

Well, how does this look? Does it look as good as a shiny little iOS 4 cell phone? Can anything justify this?

I’m sure the corporate types are shaking their heads and muttering regrets, showing feigned shock and saying all the right PC things, but guys ‘n girls – that just doesn’t cut it. Not by a long shot.

 

Update (5.24.11): Plant closed for safety inspection.

 

 

Appendix: Toxicity of n-Hexane (from the Wikipedia - these are quite accurate):

 "The acute toxicity of hexane is relatively low, although it is a mild anesthetic. Inhalation of high concentrations produces first a state of mild euphoria, followed by somnolence with headaches and nausea.

The long-term toxicity of n-hexane in humans is well known.[6] Extensive peripheral nervous system failure is known to occur in humans chronically exposed to levels of n-hexane ranging from 400 to 600 ppm, with occasional exposures up to 2,500 ppm. The initial symptoms are tingling and cramps in the arms and legs, followed by general muscular weakness. In severe cases, atrophy of the skeletal muscles is observed, along with a loss of coordination and problems of vision. Similar symptoms are observed in animal models. They are associated with a degeneration of the peripheral nervous system (and eventually the central nervous system), starting with the distal portions of the longer and wider nerve axons. The toxicity is not due to hexane itself but to one of its metabolites, hexane-2,5-dione. It is believed that this reacts with the amino group of the side chain of lysine residues in proteins, causing cross-linking and a loss of protein function.

Chronic intoxication from hexane has been observed in recreational solvent abusers and in workers in the shoe manufacturing, furniture restoration and automobile construction industries, and recently, plastic recyclers and assemblers and cleaners of capacitive touch-screen devices.[7]

In 1994, n-hexane was included in the list of chemicals on the US Toxic Release Inventory (TRI).[8] In 2001, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency issued regulations on the control of emissions of hexane gas due to its potential carcinogenic properties and environmental concerns.[9]"

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Reply #26 Top

Yes, it is. Brilliant man.

Reply #27 Top

Quoting StevenAus, reply 22
What would be a better system to practice?  I'd love to see such a system, but successful systems other than modified capitalism are few and far between (at least AFAIK).  Socially modified capitalism isn't quite as bad as extreme capitalism, but a good alternative has yet to become obvious.  Maybe after the end of the world we'll get some good ideas.

Best regards,
Steven.
End of StevenAus's quote

There is no system, there only is honesty, compassion and truth.  Things which seem to be lacking among a lot of the rich in this country.  If you make more money than you need to live on, then you should be helping those that cannot, taking care of and helping your fellow human beings.  Fancy cars, homes, jewelry, clothes, whatever, mean absolutely nothing if the person next to you is starving due to no fault of their own.

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Reply #28 Top

k1  Lightstar

Reply #29 Top

Kudos to LightStar. There is an old saying.....He who knows best.

Reply #30 Top

I'd like to think I practice honesty, compassion and truth the best I can.  I'm not rich, but I contribute what I can (in various ways).  And I say "Good day/evening" to people I meet and who help me.  It might seem small, but sometimes a kind word from someone they don't really know can really provide a little brightness to the day, a shared, understood struggle to get to the end of the day.

I'd love it if honesty, compassion and truth was a lot more prevalent in the world today.  Capitalism is certainly really bad when taken to the furthest extremes.  There needs to be some necessary and important safeguards so that rich people can't just walk over everyone else.  Unfortunately, that doesn't seem to be the case in the US, especially at the moment. :-(

Best regards,
Steven.

Reply #31 Top

Quoting LightStar, reply 27
Fancy cars, homes, jewelry, clothes, whatever, mean absolutely nothing if the person next to you is starving due to no fault of their own.
End of LightStar's quote

And even if it is..... "Judge not, lest ye be Judged."

Reply #32 Top

Quoting DrJBHL, reply 31

Quoting LightStar, reply 27Fancy cars, homes, jewelry, clothes, whatever, mean absolutely nothing if the person next to you is starving due to no fault of their own.
And even if it is..... "Judge not, lest ye be Judged."
End of DrJBHL's quote

No judging here Doc, I always help when I can, I just expect it of others who are even more fortunate than I.

Reply #33 Top

I know that, Tom. You be a good guy. :) 

Didn't mean to have it interpreted personally..... Just quoting a nice Jewish guy. ;)

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:)

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The Kochs are longtime libertarians who believe in drastically lower personal and corporate taxes, minimal social services for the needy, and much less oversight of industry—especially environmental regulation. These views dovetail with the brothers’ corporate interests. In a study released this spring, the University of Massachusetts at Amherst’s Political Economy Research Institute named Koch Industries one of the top ten air polluters in the United States. And Greenpeace issued a report identifying the company as a “kingpin of climate science denial.” The report showed that, from 2005 to 2008, the Kochs vastly outdid ExxonMobil in giving money to organizations fighting legislation related to climate change, underwriting a huge network of foundations, think tanks, and political front groups. Indeed, the brothers have funded opposition campaigns against so many Obama Administration policies—from health-care reform to the economic-stimulus program—that, in political circles, their ideological network is known as the Kochtopus.

In a statement, Koch Industries said that the Greenpeace report “distorts the environmental record of our companies.” And David Koch, in a recent, admiring article about him in New York, protested that the “radical press” had turned his family into “whipping boys,” and had exaggerated its influence on American politics. But Charles Lewis, the founder of the Center for Public Integrity, a nonpartisan watchdog group, said, “The Kochs are on a whole different level. There’s no one else who has spent this much money. The sheer dimension of it is what sets them apart. They have a pattern of lawbreaking, political manipulation, and obfuscation. I’ve been in Washington since Watergate, and I’ve never seen anything like it. They are the Standard Oil of our times.”



Read more http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/08/30/100830fa_fact_mayer#ixzz1N71Ed8Sv

Reply #37 Top

:P

 

 

Reply #38 Top

My OT was about irresponsibility and inhumanity. 

 

Reply #40 Top

Quoting myfist0, reply 16
Typical response from a suit.
End of myfist0's quote

 

 

If you only knew how absurd that is.

 

 

I don't even own a 'suit'.

 

 

Not one.

 

 

Last time I wore one was to my wedding  June 5, 1982 .....;p

Reply #41 Top

Ya got me beat Jafo, my last suit was 1989 when I retired from the Army.:grin:

Reply #42 Top

Hate to admit it, my last suit was for my son's wedding..... but that was a happy suit.

Reply #43 Top

I have a suit, but it sure doesn't fit any more!

Reply #44 Top

A suit, I still have the one I came with.  :O

Reply #45 Top

You guys all rock, burn all the suits. I think its the ties are to tight that cause some sort of mental issue  o_O .

Quoting Philly0381, reply 44
A suit, I still have the one I came with. 
End of Philly0381's quote

Hehe, best response of the lot  :grin:

The only suit I have is in my hockey bag with the rest of my hockey gear.

 

Sorry Jafo, I will try to give myself a few minutes before replying (ranting) to something that gets me emotional.

If Doc wants I will remove the Kochs from my post. Hmm that sounds strangely pornographic.

Reply #46 Top

What's a suit?

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Quoting Uvah, reply 46
What's a suit?
End of Uvah's quote

A quarter of a deck of cards, 13 off.

I trust that clears everything up swimmingly....;)

Reply #48 Top

Quoting Jafo, reply 40
Last time I wore one was to my wedding June 5, 1982 .....
End of Jafo's quote

I wear one to friends weddings as well!

Reply #49 Top

Oh, and someone in the last topic said something along the lines of... these factories make a lot of stuff, you can't just stop buying everything. Yes you can. Stay up-to-date as a consumer, when stuff like this gets revealed you have a duty against your fellow humans to act against it. Guess what - if you want to act like a moral person, you WILL HAVE TO PUT SOME EFFORT IN to avoid sweatshops like these. You CANNOT consider yourself a moral or ethical person if you close your eyes and cover your ears.
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The sad thing is that this is the mentality that is also screwing our own country, people who think that we are powerless to do anything because corporations and the US Gov't have lots of money and power. because of this, we will continue to see these problems and abuses and this will eventually lead to war (civil, revolution, call it what you want). People will either eventually stand up and fight or accept tyranny for fear of not being able to fight back.

But, how do we the consumers really make a difference? Do we just throw away our desires to have the latest and greatest in technology to show we care? Do we pay the extra 50 to 90% price hike of products made in the US? Do we demand jobs be brought back to the US and then pay the extreme prices of these products? It seems the problem is a lot bigger than we think and the solution will not be easy or painless. Someone will have to be sacrificed (I don't mean killed), the question is who?

Reply #50 Top

j'adore le costume

des fois même avec des baskets

et une cravate defaite